Allow multiple UNL & UNK entries with their official or nick name respectively

Dear Open Foris team and users,

Being a vegetation a vegetation-biologist I make usually forest & grasland relevees including shrub nd herb layers, recording data both with scientific as with vernacular names - often local names are more familiar. My Arena Mobile facilitates now this possibility to enter now both; moreover it is now possible if species consist of 2 names, e.g. Genus species, or American oak - then only 3-4 characters of the first followed by some characters of the second divided by a space leads fast to the species to be selected. Thanks a lot for this: it makes using the app in the field much easier and faster!

Hope this feature will soon also be included in the official Arena Mobile!

It will also be very helpful that both in Arena Desktop and Mobile both more than one UNL (existing but not yet in the taxonomy list) and UNK (not yet recognized.determined) species can be entered - so not only registered as Unlisted or Unknown, but with code UNL or UNK and (temporarily!) accepted scientific and/or local or nick names... to be adjusted later on during validation.

N.B. In Arena Desktop I observed that entering Scientific names not (always?) result in filling also the vernacular name, although existing in the taxonomy - hope that this can be adjusted, I do not see a possibility for this in the Survey designer.

Thanks a lot for this very helpful tools!

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asked 14 Aug '23, 12:39

joseph
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Dear Joseph,
Even Arena Mobile supports now the possibility to look for a species name by writing the first characters of the genus and the first characters of the scientific name, divided by a space.
Regarding the possibility to specify the scientific name "temporarly" for both unlisted and unknown species is useful and it will be included soon in both Arena desktop and Arena Mobile.
Many thanks,
Open Foris Team

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answered 17 Nov '23, 10:13

Stefano (OF) ♦♦
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Dear Joseph,
We are applying some changes to the taxon attribute that will be available in version 2.4 of Arena and Arena Mobile.
These changes include an option in the form designer to allow including a single/unique vernacular name, in case it's specified for the selected taxon.
However, in the current version of Arena Mobile, if you type a temporary unlisted or unknown species name, it is saved in the attribute value; e.g. you can type a name that is not in the list, then select from the matching items "Unknown" or "Unlisted" (because you won't have matching items...) and that temporary name will remain saved.
We will let you know once the new version will be ready.
Many thanks,
Open Foris Team

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answered 24 Feb, 21:45

Stefano (OF) ♦♦
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Dear Joseph,
A new option has been added in the survey form designer, for taxon attributes: Vernacular name always included if only one
With that option selected, if you have only one vernacular name specified for a taxon, that vernacular name will always be included in the data, together with the selected taxon.
Please also check the other option, Vernacular name selection kept: if not selected, when you look for a taxon using its vernacular name, that name won't be kept in the data.
Please play a bit with those options and let us know, many thanks.
Open Foris Team

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answered 03 Mar, 14:20

Stefano (OF) ♦♦
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Dear OF team, Thanks a lot for applying UNL (Unlisted) and UNK (Unknown) combined with temporarily/nick species names: 1) I can now explore in Arena Desktop for (UNL) Unlisted and update the species list (in Taxonomies) in one go, and 2) explore for (UNK) Unknown to make a list to be further determined, mostly on the basis of collected material in the field tagged with concerned temporarily/nick name!

NB This improvement concerns only to MAM (My Arena Mobile = Arena Mobile Experiments): in the official Arena (mobile) this does not work yet: 2 UNK or 2 UNL are regarded here as double entries because temporarily/nick names are not stored.

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answered 28 Mar '24, 16:29

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edited 28 Mar '24, 16:30

Dear OF team, regarding this old issue (using UNL/UNK functionally: UNL (known species but not (yet) as such in the taxonomy list) and UNK (species not known/determined at field but entered with a temporarily nickname), still 2 issues not (yet) solved: 1) NB-15aug23: entering Scientific names do not result in filling also the Vernacular name, although existing in the taxonomy-list, 2) NB-28mar25: having more than one UNK and or UNL result in errors while regarded as duplicate entries: temporary unlisted and unknown nick names are not saved?! Can this use of UNL & UNK become standard or should/can this be solved in the survey design? Pls have once more a look into this, would help in the field as well as in validating.

Thanks ahead, Joseph.

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answered 23 Feb, 17:48

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the 2) NB about the errors if more than once a UNL/UNK is listed, is in fact no problem: while UNL and UNK species are to be listed in the cleansing phase, just 1) NB about filling also automatically the vernacular name after recording a species with the scientific name stays on (while the oposite works well!).

(24 Feb, 15:01) joseph

So far So good: the option(s) to automatically 'Vernacular name always included if only one' makes entries with Scientific names complete! Maybe let user select the (official) one to be used if there are more e.g. regional/local names. Thanks a lot!

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