Hello OF Team, I have been using the experimental version of Arena Mobile after a colleague referred me to it and very much enjoy it. While the standard version of the app is good, I find the experimental version to be a bit faster and with improved look and better tactile useability. Thank you for all your work on the standard and experimental versions of the mobile application! Bryant asked 22 Jul, 20:36 bnagelson |
Hello OF team, In the same direction as Bryant, I would like to contribute that our experience with both APPs is similar, the official one is a good tool but the experimental version is more intuitive and agile, in fact for our field work we are using the experimental version of Arena Mobile. Good job to the entire team! Oscar answered 24 Jul, 04:15 osgarcia |
Dear Arena Mobile colleagues, I just checked on the updated versions of these two apps; I noticed that you have implemented the multiple lines in both, which is great. I captured test data without trouble in both. In the past I had some issues with image collection when using Arena Mobile (not Arena Experiment), but this time both worked perfectly. My main problem with Arena Mobile is something I have already mentioned regarding the 'bottom' box of the screen. It is not really useful to me, and it occupies a disproportionate part of the screen. So basically, I minimize it always. But even if I minimize it in the root, later when I enter lower level entries, it goes back to extended, and so I have to minimize it again, which is a significant loss of time. answered 24 Jul, 11:29 bsenterre |
Dear Open Foris Team, My team similarly found that the AM app became slow when inputting larger volumes of data. I don't remember exactly how many trees (but imagine as we neared 100 trees in a plot), or neared the end of the 30 vegetation quadrats surveyed (each with multiple entities in tables. We used both an Android and Apple device. At first I thought it was the device needing to be updated, but this problem completely cleared up when I found the AM Experiments app. My team immediately found the Experiments app to be more intuitive and have better data visualization while inputting information into the app, so we continued to use this for the remainder of our field season. My team used two devices simultaneously to gather data at each plot, so I was very excited to see there is now an option in the latest version of Experiments to merge the data from both devices into a single record. This feature has greatly enhanced my workflow and organization of our data. Thank you for continuing to enhance and experiment with features that make these apps more useful for our work! answered 23 Aug, 03:12 Mdeslaur13 |
Dear OF team I ran into similar problems to some of the users above. I have designed a relatively large survey in OF Arena Mobile (AM) for a plantation experiment. The design is relatively simple, but the sampling point data is quite large (~50,000 trees). The survey worked quite well in OF Arena, but I ran into serious problems when I tested it on several Android devices. AM just keeps crashing when I try to start it. On Apple devices, however, the survey runs smoothly and as expected. After a series of tests I came to the following conclusions:
Finally, a big thank you to the OF team for their work on this great toolbox and their support. answered 11 Sep, 08:05 chris_1123 Dear Christoph, your full survey should work on your device (Samsung Galaxy Tab Active Pro) with AME, please confirm it. Many thanks.
(26 Sep, 11:06)
Stefano (OF) ♦♦
Dear Stefano Thank you, the initial performance issue (i.e. the survey hangs when loading) seems to have been resolved for both AM and AME (as of November 2024). Another critical performance issue (i.e. the survey slows down after adding a number of entities and sub-entities) has not been tested in practice on Android devices, as the campaign has already been successfully launched on iPad.
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Dear users, answered 24 Jul, 09:16 Stefano (OF) ♦♦ |
Hello, Yesterday was my first day using a newly-developed survey in AM. I found that the app became quite slow and difficult to use as the number of records in a multiple entity grew large (100+ records). Dropdown menus for multiple attributes were very slow to open, and the creation of new records within the multiple entity took 10-15 seconds. In general, the app was very "laggy" and unresponsive at times, and I mostly noticed this problem with large multiple entities. I was using the most recent version of AM on an Android tablet. I did not have the chance to extensively use the same survey in AME to compare performance. answered 09 Aug, 19:01 bnagelson Hello Bryant Nagelson, what device, survey and version of the application are you using to help you. Best,
(16 Aug, 14:01)
Ramiro (OF)
Hi Ramiro, I was running Android 13 on a Samsung Galaxy Tab S4, and I was using the newest version of the Arena Mobile that was available the morning of August 8th (I updated the app that morning before heading out into the woods). I would be happy to share my survey with you if you'd like it. What is the best way for me to send it to you?
(22 Aug, 22:27)
bnagelson
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Dear Bryant, answered 12 Aug, 23:16 Stefano (OF) ♦♦ Dear Stefano, please, does the evaluation "again and again" holds also for validations? We have a complex expression calculating horizontal distance of the tree. If the tree is out of 40x40m square, it triggers error. But maybe it is re-evaluated for all trees when adding a new one? So app is working slower and slower? As reported https://openforis.support/questions/4038/arena-mobile-experiments/4067?
(21 Aug, 22:43)
jurafejfar
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Dear open-foris team, we are facing similar problem: "our field crew has reported that the app becomes very slow (and continuously slower) when inputting tree data (other plot data seem to be fine)." and "I'm afraid I don't have much more information. They just notice that the app becomes slower while they are working. It is by far most notable (and interfering with the workflow, bordering unusable) when they record tree data. They are using some regular tablet with Android." answered 21 Aug, 22:39 jurafejfar Tablet used is: Samsung Tab S6 Lite (SM-P615, 128 GB). I am asking the team about the critical number of trees.
(22 Aug, 12:34)
jurafejfar
could you confirm the version of the application that you and your team are using?
(22 Aug, 15:08)
Ramiro (OF)
It's version 1.0.60.198 (198) or later. We will try to get exact information.
(22 Aug, 22:02)
jurafejfar
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Dear users, Reguarding the merge feature server side, we are still working on it and it should be ready in September 2024. If you still find issues on Arena Mobile, please open a new thread about that and keep this one only to talk about differences between Arena Mobile and Arena Mobile Experiments, especially about features you would like to see in the official app. Many thanks, answered 26 Aug, 11:16 Stefano (OF) ♦♦ |
Dear Christoph,
Also, when you say that the experimental app is "much clearer and more intuitive", are you talking about something specific? answered 14 Sep, 14:55 Stefano (OF) ♦♦ |